Monday, February 23, 2009
2nd post on "How to read " The Waste Land" so it alters your soul
This article helped me understand bits and pieces of the poems in The Waste Land, and I agree with the fact that this is a poem, and for a poem it is a good piece. You have to keep in mind the time era it was written and that explains alot for me. It also reminds me of Shakespere, I guess because it speaks like a play from the shakespere era. In all my readings that I did on this piece, I found that the title "The Wate Land" is basically what the poem is about, "Waste" in T.S. Elliot, The Waste Land on the bottom of page 288 it says, "The Waste Land thus bespeaks a simultaneous fascination with, and revulsion from, waste". or "The process of waste-production is knitted into its cultural moment:it cannot(and pound cannot) "edit out" all the waste, because it is waste material; both the abject and a valuable surplus which enables culture to continue, creating its own moment as it orders its abjection. There can be no production without waste." When reading this information from Tim Armstrong I could relate to the poem more and understand that with many poems that a lot of the words in a poem come from the poets head and we do not always no whats in a poets head so the poems can seem a bit strange. So doing some research on this helped me understand some of the meaning in it. A bunch of waste put together in a poem!
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
The Waste Land/response to, "How to read"
I had to agree with Mary Karr, the poems as individuals are good poems. I felt something when I read this, "In terms of shape, the poem is a collage, somewhat disparate pieces assembled to create in readers the kind of despair that infected much of Western Europe after the Great War." after reading that the poems have more meaning to me. The poems have words from a long time ago and so there is lots of history and changes from the wars, all this brings great depth to the poems. The French language and the other languages do not help but I think it was to add something more to make the poems different and stand out. Look how much controversy it is getting now. I am learning to understand and appreciate all kinds of works in the poem world!
The Spanish Tragedy excerpt
this was a little bit of a nice sweet poem/excerpt it was easy to read and I liked it. I am not sure where this is from or what else to say about it. It was a nice short poem.
Monday, February 9, 2009
The Waste Land
OMG!!!
At this point of the poems, it started out like your normal poem, and then just became too hard to read with a different language and all. Sometimes it sounded like a small story but I still could not get into it or enjoy it like a poem should be. I am not sure what the different phases are or titles and whether it goes together or not, that is how lost I am. Can someone help me understand any of this?
Once I start re-reading parts of the poem, I can't help but have questions, like the first part of the poem, the title, "The buriel of the dead" this makes me think about burying dead people but as I read on, the poem sounds like it is talking about plants, second line. "Lilacs out of the dead land" or page 7, line 71, "that corpse you planted last year in your garden" now is he talking about flowers or corpse? Is this about the title or what? Line 72, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? It seems to be about plants and gardens, frost and rain etc.
At this point of the poems, it started out like your normal poem, and then just became too hard to read with a different language and all. Sometimes it sounded like a small story but I still could not get into it or enjoy it like a poem should be. I am not sure what the different phases are or titles and whether it goes together or not, that is how lost I am. Can someone help me understand any of this?
Once I start re-reading parts of the poem, I can't help but have questions, like the first part of the poem, the title, "The buriel of the dead" this makes me think about burying dead people but as I read on, the poem sounds like it is talking about plants, second line. "Lilacs out of the dead land" or page 7, line 71, "that corpse you planted last year in your garden" now is he talking about flowers or corpse? Is this about the title or what? Line 72, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? It seems to be about plants and gardens, frost and rain etc.
Monday, February 2, 2009
Where are you going,where have you been?
This was a dark story for me. I think it hit me hard because I am a mother of 2 children and do not ever want to think of this happening to them. It was hard for me to finish it, but with what is on the news today I make sure my kids are aware of the cruel world they need to protect them self from. This story was short but not sweet. I could not decide which was real or a dream or a demon. Was Connie dreaming of what would happen if she keeps on the way she does with boys, or is this about the devil, or is this your typical loser, stalking and raping young girls? I do know it was dark and the man was evil. Anyone want to help me on this one/
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